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  1. Great show, well done LDC to all the car owner's, stand staffers, cake makers, regalia sellers and the volunteer talkers. But, of course a special mention for Chris, our IT technical guru, drone pilot extraordinaire and now fully qualified Barista! Well done everyone, great effort all. Kim
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    Consumer Rights and Faulty Cars

    A client of ours who bought a "near" classic car from a dealer has just had his money returned in full after finding a major defect. The car in question was a 2001 Subaru Impreza, a car much revered in its day and prices are rising for good examples as collectability takes hold. The car was bought over the internet from a classic car dealer sight unseen, not something I would do for a £10K car but some people do. On collecting the car it looked great and drove well and came with a full tank of petrol, what could go wrong? Having picked the car up mid-week it was not until the first weekend when the buyer had chance to have a good look at his new toy. Getting it up on axles stands to remove the wheels he discovered some rust, not a little bit of surface rust but some pretty major structural rust. This was not the car he had been expecting. The consumer rights act 2015 states that the object, in this case a car, must be "fit for purpose" be "of satisfactory quality" and "as described". This car would fail on all three counts but as you might guess, the dealer was initially "reluctant" to refund the client. However, the act goes on to state that you have a right to reject something and are entitled to a full refund within 30 days of purchase if any of the above criteria are not met. So, you need to act fairly quickly as the short-term right to return goods expires after 30 days but in this case the client did act quickly. The car had been described as "excellent" when clearly it was not, was not fit for purpose as the car was in fact in a dangerous, and even though the act allows some discretion on "satisfactory quality" because of the vehicles age, this car would not have passed that test in this instance. With the aid of his local Citizens Advice service who pointed out the situation and that should the matter proceed to court the dealer could be responsible for court costs, they, "as a gesture of goodwill" decided to take the car back and fully refund the buyer. It's good to know these things but beware, the protection for cars bought privately is much more limited and revolves around the car meeting the legal requirement to be driven on the road, the buyer shoulders the responsibility for "fit for purpose" and "of satisfactory quality" so you need to be much more careful when buying privately. A good result for the customer and a lesson learnt. Kim Routen Chaplin
  3. On most classic insurance and most bespoke schemes, you may have elected for a mileage limit on your policy. The mileage limit reduces the premium you pay but they do become a condition or warranty of the policy. Do not exceed these limits as it will invalidate your policy and cover will be void! On vehicles that have MOTs it is easy for insurers to check you mileage year to year, if you say you only do 5000 miles a year but the MOTs say 7000 or your milometer reading at the time of an accident shows you have exceeded the limit, you are in trouble. Insurers can and do reject claims, not only the damage to your car but if you damaged someone's car by running into the back of it, you could be liable for that cost as well. Our own limited mileage Lotus policy does allow you to increase the mileage if you are running short, this summer has been great and we have had a number of requests to do just that. Please be diligent, an innocent mistake could be very expensive and leave you without cover. There are no grey areas here so make sure you stay within your limit or extend cover if need be. Kim Routen Chaplin
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    New year day Cotswold meet

    Just heard back from the Motor Hub. They have 5 disabled spots so we are good to go. Booked in, it will be good to blow the cobwebs away. Kim Is this the start of a list?
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    New year day Cotswold meet

    I have visited the Motor Hub and there are some great cars housed there and the sales department always has a selection of great classic cars / bikes / racing cars on offer and nice rooms to investigate. Last time I was there they had a lime green Lamborghini Miura and a Ford GT40, two of my favourite cars ever! It's slightly difficult to find as its a long way down country lanes once you have turned off the main road but well worth the effort and the £5.00 entry fee which on this occasion is for a good cause. I have only been there for work and have not been on an event day like this but I know it gets very busy. You cannot just turn up on the event days so you must book but you won't be disappointed. They get booked up pretty quickly so if you want to go, book now! We would have Lottie with us and the "classic" blue van might not be to their liking, I have e-mailed them to see if we can park round the back out of sight so to speak, if we can we will go as it is definitely on our list to do anyway. Hope this helps. K .J. L.
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    AGM at The Stag Redhill - 14 March 2019

    As a long time LDC member I have seen many AGMs come and go. Whatever venue or day or time chosen there will always be people who cannot attend. I have not been to some because I used to work on Saturdays and at other times we have been away and so on. I have even been to LDC AGMs in the past where the committee members out numbered the attendees and I think it is a tribute to the committee, its area leaders, volunteers and enthusiastic members that the club has made such progress in recent years that the AGM is now regarded as an event to attend, rather than to avoid! The Stagg as a venue is fine, I am sure the room arrangements can be resolved in the spirit of goodwill that now exists between the clubs rather than the warring that was evident some years ago and I am confident that if the boot were on the other foot, LDC would assist Club Lotus in the same manor. So we are left with "the proof of the pudding" and that of course will be tested in due course. Personally I don't think so many will attend, the promise of food, AGM and more food has proved popular and of course this will not be on offer this time around. But, if you never try anything new you don't know what the results will be and it may be the Stagg venue time and date suit an audience that a weekend especially on mothering Sunday does not. Seriously though, if it does not work, it won't be repeated. There are lots of suitable venues to choose from and with more forward thinking I am sure we can manage to miss Mothering Sunday! Once upon a time LDC had an "official" season opener, normally held in Stow on the Wold, pretty little town, central location and lots of pubs and cafes to get food in, it was just a social event but always well attended as people liked to meet up after the winter months, perhaps we should re-invent it? Kim
  7. Good news for insurance premiums. No change in IPT This is the bit (currently 12%) that is charged on all insurance premiums which then goes directly to government. Its been popular to increase this in previous budgets so it was a surprise that it was left alone this time. Unlike VAT, IPT cannot be re-claimed by businesses and so it has been something of a cash cow for chancellors.
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    Caffeine & Machine Opening - 27 October 2018

    Mmmm.. interesting good? Looked at w3ebsite but can't see when its open. Is it only special events etc?
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    Caffeine & Machine Opening - 27 October 2018

    Better get there early then! Let me know what you think, obviously its not too far away from us to pop over when the interest has died down a bit. Kim
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    Caffeine & Machine Opening - 27 October 2018

    Unfortunately I cannot make tomorrow, but it looks like its going to be way over attended and they are already saying that even though they are extending the event to Sunday there is potential that they still have to turn people away. I know there are a few others who cannot go tomorrow but is sounds like a great venue and once the hype has died down a little it sounds like it could well be worth LDC having a run out to it one weekend, any body think the same? I would be interested to hear what the ones that go this weekend think of it.
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    Jim Clark’s Lotus Elite

    What price celebrity, from an insurance point of view, unless we are talking racing cars, celebrity owners count for very little, certainly not when they are long gone. We have been asked to insure a hearse that carried Winston Churchill for a few hundred yards on the day of the funeral, a fully restored hearse of the same make and model is perhaps £30k the owners claim that it is worth in excess of £100K because of "the part it played in the great mans life ". Sorry to state the obvious but it played no part in the great mans life, only a bit part in the great mans death. A beautiful car the Elite undoubtedly be, is it worth paying more because of the connection, yes a little but only a little, not a fortune more. Now if we dig up some bones and crush them into it, it would have much more DNA!
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    Jim Clark’s Lotus Elite

    Triggers Broom, its the same broom I've had for 20 years, its had 3 new heads and 2 new handles!
  13. I think many in the classic car world fundamentally disagree with the 40 year rolling MOT exemption. Most classics we insure choose a limit of 3000 miles. So even if the full mileage limit was used that would be 6000, or 9000 miles over two or three year period. A more sensible idea might have been to reduce the frequency, maybe every two or three years or at mileage intervals say 10k miles. I think the biggest problem lies with cars of monocoque construction, cars of the 70s and 80s where rust lurks inside sills, up behind wheel arches , scuttle panels as well as inner wings, and suspension pick up points. Outer bodywork like wheel arches, outer sills valances etc are easy to spot but its the stuff you don't see which is the real danger. The Lotus is not immune of course but rust areas on the chassis are well known and easy enough to find. Voluntary MOTs are great way to demonstrate a responsible attitude and even those with a great deal of mechanical knowledge and skill can benefit from the car being looked at, up in the air, by a fresh pair of eyes. Happy Classic Motoring
  14. The no Mot rule for cars 40+ years old means that many "classic" Loti such as Elites, Elans, Europas, +2s and some early gen 3 cars, Esprits and Excel/Eclats now fall into this group. An MOT is only ever a snapshot in time, a look at the car on one day does not make it roadworthy over the whole year! It is a myth that if your car has no MOT, insurers will not pay out, a car without an MOT is perfectly capable of being fully roadworthy and within the scope of the policy. It is for this reason that all motor insurance policies whether this be classic or modern, have a clause in them which roughly states, "the vehicle must be maintained in a road worthy condition at all times" This was in policies prior to the new MOT rules and will remain in there for the future. It is this statement that insurers have relied on to determine whether or not the cover is valid, and going forward, without MOTs, they may have to rely on it more heavily. What does this really mean, if you run into the back of the car in front because you have four bald tyres and could not stop, insurers could well refuse a claim and void the policy. Not only could you lose your own car, but you would be responsible for the claim costs of the other party as well. I’m sure you understand the thinking here; no MOT requirement is no excuse for poor maintenance or should be seen as a way to run cars on a shoe string paying no regard for safety which endangers your passengers and other road users. With four bald tyres it would be hard to argue you were not aware, a feathering on an inside edge is one thing, running on slicks is another! However, the same accident described above would almost certainly be paid if the only defect was not a contributory factor, so if an indicator was not working it would have no bearing on the accident. It is said that "classic car people" always maintain their cars well, as a generalisation this might be correct but there are always a few who will take liberties with the new rules. An MOT test forced people to address niggling faults like a bulb gone, wiper blades and to look at tyres etc. The MOT highlighted things that you would not spot, corroding brake pipes, a split rubber gaiter, play in bushes etc. The fear is that over time several niggling faults will build up leaving the vehicle in a poor state. Perhaps an MOT every two or even three years would have been more sensible? The other concern is that as the 40-year rolling requirement moves on, the type of car that falls into this band will become a very useable everyday car. They will have 5 speed gearboxes, power steering, electric windows and central locking and a performance that allows them to be viable daily transport. This is where non-enthusiast may lurk, to buy old bangers which won't be cherished but used to get to work each day with no MOT, cheap classic insurance, no tax and with little or no maintenance. As enthusiasts we are not all mechanical experts and so inevitably some defect might be missed, whilst insurance has a bad press I can assure you they are not looking to refuse claims without good cause. Keeping bills and receipts for parts or work done helps your situation no end and in the event of a write off claim helps secure a good valuation for your vehicle. Kim
  15. It has been announced that the Donington racing car museum will close on November 5th this year! For those of you who have not visited this museum at the Donington race track in Leicestershire you don't have long to do so. A great collection of all types of racing cars and of course there are a few Lotus cars in there, well at least there was last time I went to visit but that was some years ago. Its a great shame that after 45 years its going to close, many cars are on loan and will revert to their owners but some will undoubtedly be sold off. The café there has already closed. Kim